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The matters raised below have been resolved. The Cassirers in Oberglogau were associated with Siegfried Cassirer, brother of Markus Cassirer. At the time of the discussion below it was believed that Markus was the son of Moses ben Loebel Cassirer. We now know that is not the case and that all the evidence points to him, and Siegfried being the sons of Moses ('Mausche') Cassirer of Bujakow - referred to below as Moses [2] Cassirer. We now have documentary evidence that Siegfried moved to Oberglogau.
The matters raised below have been resolved. The Cassirers in Oberglogau were associated with Siegfried Cassirer, brother of Markus Cassirer. At the time of the discussion below it was believed that Markus was the son of Moses ben Loebel Cassirer. We now know that is not the case and that all the evidence points to him, and Siegfried being the sons of Moses ('Mausche') Cassirer of Bujakow - referred to below as Moses [2] Cassirer. We now have documentary evidence that Siegfried moved to Oberglogau on 1 September 1840.
The matters raised below have been resolved. The Cassirers in Oberglogau were associated with Siegfried Cassirer, brother of Markus Cassirer. At the time of the discussion below it was believed that Markus was the son of Moses ben Loebel Cassirer. We now know that is not the case and that all the evidence points to him, and Siegfried being the sons of Moses ('Mausche') Cassirer of Bujakow. We now have documentary evidence that Siegfried moved to Oberglogau.
The matters raised below have been resolved. The Cassirers in Oberglogau were associated with Siegfried Cassirer, brother of Markus Cassirer. At the time of the discussion below it was believed that Markus was the son of Moses ben Loebel Cassirer. We now know that is not the case and that all the evidence points to him, and Siegfried being the sons of Moses ('Mausche') Cassirer of Bujakow - referred to below as Moses [2] Cassirer. We now have documentary evidence that Siegfried moved to Oberglogau.
23 July 2023: This is of historical interest only now The matters raised below have been resolved. The Cassirers in Oberglogau were associated with Siegfried Cassirer, brother of Markus Cassirer. At the time of the discussion below it was believed that Markus was the son of Moses ben Loebel Cassirer. We now know that is not the case and that all the evidence points to him, and Siegfried being the sons of Moses ('Mausche') Cassirer of Bujakow. We now have documentary evidence that Siegfried moved to Oberglogau.
Moses 2 Cassirer married Eva Fischer and in due course had a son Loebel 2 Cassirer (7 Mar 1809-bef 1849)1. We have no record of their other children but they could well have included Ida, Siegfried and daughter O or D Cohen (although mysteriously Siegfried and D Cohen are referred to as "Messrs").2.
Moses ('Mausche') married Eva Fischer and in due course had a son Loebel 2 Cassirer (7 Mar 1809-bef 1849)3. We have no record of their other children but they could well have included Ida, Siegfried and daughter O or D Cohen (although mysteriously Siegfried and D Cohen are referred to as "Messrs").4.
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida Crämer (Krämer), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.5 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)6 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
Expat noted that "There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida Crämer (Krämer), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.7 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)8 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer)."
SITE EDITOR: The simplest conclusion appears to be that Siegfried and Ida were indeed the children of Moses [2] Cassirer and his wife Eva. The dates cited appear consistent with this conclusion.
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- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida Crämer (Krämer), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.9 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)10 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida Crämer (Krämer), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.11 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)12 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
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We have a record of a bequest (date unknown13 to the Jewish-Theological Seminar Foundation in Breslau in memory as follows:
We have a record of a bequest (date unknown)14 to the Jewish-Theological Seminar Foundation in Breslau in memory as follows:
Moses 2 Cassirer married Eva Fischer and in due course had a son Loebel 2 Cassirer (7 Mar 1809-bef 1849)15. We have no record of their other children but they could well have included Ida, Siegfried and daughter O or D Cohen although mysteriously Siegfried and D Cohen are referred to as "Messrs"16).
Moses 2 Cassirer married Eva Fischer and in due course had a son Loebel 2 Cassirer (7 Mar 1809-bef 1849)17. We have no record of their other children but they could well have included Ida, Siegfried and daughter O or D Cohen (although mysteriously Siegfried and D Cohen are referred to as "Messrs").18.
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Moses 2 Cassirer married Eva Fischer and in due course had a son Loebel 2 Cassirer (7 Mar 1809-bef 1849)21. We have no record of their other children but they could well have included Ida, Siegfried and daughter O or D Cohen although mysteriously Siegfried and D Cohen are referred to as "Messrs"22).
Moses 2 Cassirer married Eva Fischer and in due course had a son Loebel 2 Cassirer (7 Mar 1809-bef 1849)23. We have no record of their other children but they could well have included Ida, Siegfried and daughter O or D Cohen although mysteriously Siegfried and D Cohen are referred to as "Messrs"24).
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida CRÄMER (KRÄMER), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.25 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)26 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida Crämer (Krämer), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.27 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)28 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
Siegfried Cassirer29
Siegfried Cassirer30
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida CRÄMER (KRÄMER), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.31 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)32 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida CRÄMER (KRÄMER), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.33 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)34 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
Siegfried Cassirer35
Siegfried Cassirer36
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida CRÄMER (KRÄMER), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.37 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)38 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
- There is an identified Ida Cassirer - born Ida CRÄMER (KRÄMER), who married Leopold Cassirer (son of Salomon 2 Cassirer and Ernestine Wachsmann) in 1858. At best this would make her a daughter in law not daughter, which is a possible translation error.39 But it is hard to see the scenario where she becomes even a daughter in law to either this Moses (who seems not to be Moses Loebel Cassirer)40 or if the meaning is different to this Siegfried 2 Cassirer (son of Moses 2 Cassirer).
- Siegfried Cassirer (brother of Markus Cassirer) married Henriette Fischer (1821-1891)
- Siegfried Cassirer (brother of Markus Cassirer) married Henriette Fischer (1821-1891)