Sources
Sources
351. Philip Cohen, 17 Oct 2001, “Henry Cohen (1790-1867),” 2/244 Kingsway, Carringbah, Sydney, NSW 2229. Email formset@accsoft.com.au, p. 60.
356. “NSW Register of Births, Deaths & Marriages,,” Civil Registry.
TITL NSW Register of Births, Deaths & Marriages, :
Jane Hyman ABBR NSW Register of B D M
TITL NSW Register of Births, Deaths & Marriages, :
Jane Hyman ABBR NSW Register of B D M
357. Henry Cohen, “Family in Australia,” http://genealogy.meta-studies.net/ZDocs/HRCN/HRCN38.html.
363. Steve Gibbes and Elizabeth Fortescue, “Re: Further to Simmons and Thorley Families,” 1 January 2007, Jim Falk email archives.
Extracted from the privately-printed publication: Samuel Thorley 1769-1821, A Biography, by John T. Thorley (Sydney 1988)
Extracted from the privately-printed publication: Samuel Thorley 1769-1821, A Biography, by John T. Thorley (Sydney 1988)
364. Philip Cohen, 17 Oct 2001, “Henry Cohen (1790-1867),” 2/244 Kingsway, Carringbah, Sydney, NSW 2229. Email formset@accsoft.com.au, p. 74.
365. Philip Cohen, “http://meta-studies.net/genealogy/PS04/PS04_312.HTM,”; 23 Oct 2015, Jim Falk email archives.
The children of James Simmons and Agnes (nee Thorley)
Sarah (c.1823–1890)—m. David Hart Marriage: no notice found … Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/108800696 Sydney News, 5 Feb 1890 Probate: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13767506 SMH, 22 Apr 1890 Child: John Hart (309/1845 V1845309 136): Court case: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28420523 SMH, 31 Jul 1869
Joseph (Arthur?) (c.1827–1864) eldest son, m. Sarah Simmons, eldest daughter of Isaac Simmons (Joseph had seven children, apparently …) Marriage: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12939595 SMH, 30 Aug 1852 Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13111110 SMH, 16 Dec 1864 (Joseph Arthur?)
Frances (c.1830–1910)—“second eldest daughter”; m. Roger Gadsden
Marriage: no notice found … Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15206066 SMH, 19 Aug 1910 Obituary: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/112332515 Wollondilly Press, 31 Aug 1910
Agnes (c.1831–1880)—“third daughter,” in 1850 m. James Simmons, eldest son of Isaac Simmons Marriage: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12920123 SMH, 9 Aug 1850 Death: no notice found, but she died 24 Apr 1880: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13485800 James’ death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/163279188 Sydney Mail, 13 Jun 1885 Child: Nathan James Simmons: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13485800
David (c.1833–1850)—“third son”[?]; died at Armidale, aged 18 years. [who’s the “second” son?] Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12918674
Elizabeth (c.1835–1925) in 1855 m. Gustav Wangenheim (137/1855 V1855137 135) Marriage: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12965101 SMH, 2 Feb 1855 Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/113917712 Sydney News, 8 Aug 1925
Isaac (1836–1857)—“youngest son”, died, aged 21 years, as a result of the “Dunbar” tragedy. Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12999713
The children of James Simmons and Agnes (nee Thorley)
Sarah (c.1823–1890)—m. David Hart Marriage: no notice found … Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/108800696 Sydney News, 5 Feb 1890 Probate: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13767506 SMH, 22 Apr 1890 Child: John Hart (309/1845 V1845309 136): Court case: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28420523 SMH, 31 Jul 1869
Joseph (Arthur?) (c.1827–1864) eldest son, m. Sarah Simmons, eldest daughter of Isaac Simmons (Joseph had seven children, apparently …) Marriage: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12939595 SMH, 30 Aug 1852 Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13111110 SMH, 16 Dec 1864 (Joseph Arthur?)
Frances (c.1830–1910)—“second eldest daughter”; m. Roger Gadsden
Marriage: no notice found … Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15206066 SMH, 19 Aug 1910 Obituary: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/112332515 Wollondilly Press, 31 Aug 1910
Agnes (c.1831–1880)—“third daughter,” in 1850 m. James Simmons, eldest son of Isaac Simmons Marriage: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12920123 SMH, 9 Aug 1850 Death: no notice found, but she died 24 Apr 1880: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13485800 James’ death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/163279188 Sydney Mail, 13 Jun 1885 Child: Nathan James Simmons: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13485800
David (c.1833–1850)—“third son”[?]; died at Armidale, aged 18 years. [who’s the “second” son?] Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12918674
Elizabeth (c.1835–1925) in 1855 m. Gustav Wangenheim (137/1855 V1855137 135) Marriage: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12965101 SMH, 2 Feb 1855 Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/113917712 Sydney News, 8 Aug 1925
Isaac (1836–1857)—“youngest son”, died, aged 21 years, as a result of the “Dunbar” tragedy. Death: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12999713
366. Philip Kirby, “emailing: SELECTION 513.jpg,” 23 Feb 2007, Jim Falk email archives, See also Marriage Certificate.
367. Steve Gibbes and Elizabeth Fortescue, “Edmund Minto Gibbes,” 9 December 2006, Jim Falk email archives.
368. Steve Gibbes and Elizabeth Fortescue, “Re: Further to Gadsden, Gibbes and Simmons,” 14 Dec 2006, Jim Falk email archives.
369. Peter Hansen, “family tree,” 2 Apr 2012, Jim Falk email archives.
Jim
A search of the Trove newspaper archive shows that Nancy Cohen did die at Collingwood , Melbourne on 1/5/1860. The notice refers to her husband as joseph Simmons senior. The same search came up with a reference from 1920 to the golden wedding of Joseph Simmons of London and Isabella Hart . They were married by the Reverend Moses Rintel in Melbourne. She was the daughter of Henry Hart and Ann Hart. They are my direct ancestors
ancestors . Their address was given as 18 Park St Parkville , which i think is in Melbourne. Would that make the two Joseph Simmons father and son?
Regards
Peter
Jim
A search of the Trove newspaper archive shows that Nancy Cohen did die at Collingwood , Melbourne on 1/5/1860. The notice refers to her husband as joseph Simmons senior. The same search came up with a reference from 1920 to the golden wedding of Joseph Simmons of London and Isabella Hart . They were married by the Reverend Moses Rintel in Melbourne. She was the daughter of Henry Hart and Ann Hart. They are my direct ancestors
ancestors . Their address was given as 18 Park St Parkville , which i think is in Melbourne. Would that make the two Joseph Simmons father and son?
Regards
Peter
370. Philip Cohen, 17 Oct 2001, “Henry Cohen (1790-1867),” 2/244 Kingsway, Carringbah, Sydney, NSW 2229. Email formset@accsoft.com.au, p. 28.
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